Zerg Hex Forum

the option to toggle it on / off on a spawner (affects all).

Feel like making it toggleable would make it easily abused by negating the down side of the unit (decreased move speed)  as can just toggle off f2 into clump then toggle back on to get the increased hp

Lets stop chatting on the forum where we meant to be talking bout the patch, probs pissing some people off xD

Idk lifes pretty good rn, got an interview for one of top unis in the world !! (cambridge)

I am a mere pleb in the eyes of our lord speed, do I not even get a mid tier title. Even your words that you use are elitist. I don't want to be able to solo carry games i just want to be able to have another option when i've been hard focused and can no longer push past big spine as cant get elites with upgrades before mass torras come out

And, as far as firebat goes, I think the old firebat did have a place in the game, it just wasn't in the right place. It clearly came out too early, and as a result was too powerful at those early moments. Maybe they should've been more expensive (in terms of mineral cost) but retained their raw power otherwise; hard to mass 50 firebats if they cost 70~80 minerals apiece (since functionally they were a bit above t2 in strength). Late game firebats, paired with t3 marines, made for a really cool looking endgame army. Firebats and t3 marines pushing into wave after wave of brutas, every second hoping that the next infused or torra doesn't turn that deathball of Terran into a deathball of roaches, those were by far some of the most intense games I'd ever had. Far more intense than steamrolling average or above-average Zerg players with t1 marines for the 300th time, or watching those same players wise up and focus me into oblivion while having to watch teammates take their sweet time to slowly choke out an overspent zerg.

I agree, bats do have a place but they just came out way too early, worst thing when playing zerg is focusing 2 of the terrans and then the other terran wiping u out with 12min bats. Due to this issue in previous patches I started only building at big spine as otherwise me and my ally zerg would lose all our eco to the bats after spawners were wiped. As of now the firebats are a waste of money as if you're going t2 then why would you make a 5 dmg firebat instead of veterans, this just makes them a noob trap for new players. The games I enjoyed the most has got to be the terran death ball push at 35 min with 60 elites and 30 bats to wipe out the zerg, nothing as satisfying as this. In the current games its rare for a game to go over 25 mins (either zerg has rushed brutas vs new players or terrans have cleared map of all zerg spawners and camping high ground with transfuses for big spines as last ditch effort). I want diversity back in to the game as after 4 days of playing the same exact style i have gotten bored. Ive adjusted to the changes and reverted to how i used to play (low eco ~ 500 mineral vet pushes = end game, if game doesn't end most likely lose)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13zxG1l4pK05dn5f1MSASM7o_dysqUKwq/view?usp=sharing

Wricez + lancula (terran) vs. Speed and Avion (zerg)

Rest of lobby is mid / low tier, but are kinda pushing. Of course nothing great, but I've seen worse. It's fair to say average lobby.

You get owned. You get owned by full eco zerg that let you expand freely (some strikeling harrass, but that is not gonna kill you, is it?) You get owned because you don't push enough. You AFK and get chemicals and you are *ing clapped.

Without chemical you might have won that game because then you'd have had to actually push the zerg. I said this so many times, chemical plant does not speed up how quickly you can get elites, first chem is 800 mineral, 700 gas, T3 is 850 gas (250 gas T2 + 600 gas T3) yard and lab is same cost, so that equals out. Quit this bullshit of "chemical is needed for T3" it's not. It's needed to stack a gazillion of wall ups to afk through zerg attacks xd.

I only watched Wricez play and was amazed by his 165/246 income at 16minutes. So *ing low. Lancular did a little better, master mechanics helping him I guess. Hey, I'm diamond, not that either is really relevant for zerg hex(it's only mechanics, doesn't help you understand the game). Wricez knew brutalisks were out, yet he doesn't even manage to prepare his bunker, nor get elites, even though chemical was in that version LUL. Even if he had T3 tech though, the amount of minerals he generated in that game would have likely not been enough to defend brutalisk anyways (Elite is very expensive and sucks more energy than kirby sucks anything)

Face it. You are bad. Nothing wrong with that, I'm bad, too. You don't need chemical, you need to improve your own skills. Don't ask for lazy AFK tools.

Morgosh did this "Hey I'm 1v1 master zerg" thing, too... guys I appreciate that you are more successful on 1v1 ladder than me (never made it past diamond), but that is entirely irrelevant for zerg hex balance & design lmao.

I used an old build that my clan leader made for fun, we dont all play this game competitively like you so we dont care about minuscule differences in mineral eco ' sorry u have ur elite terran build where u get 4000 mineral eco and wipe the zerg off the map pre 12minutes' but for early aggression i found the early minerals are not needed as much as the gas { for the marine upgrades ofc }. Pretty sure this game was 2v2 but i cant remember the game nor our team mates so cant comment further as ive lost my old account so cant watch the replay {sadly lost the replay where me and lancula beat u and avion even when both on the same side after u called roaches trash and then proceeded to die to them }   

This post is spot on with the issues of 4.0 and gives good propositions to fix the gas issue without including firebats back into the game.